Odd Double Play with Run Scored

on May 11, 2012, 02:59 pm

The following occurred in a 11-12 year old game and I'm not sure what the notation should look like:

Runner1 on 3B Runner2 on 1B.

Batter hit grounder to SS who throws the ball over the head of 1B and Runner1 scores.

Batter attempts to reach third and is thrown out 1B to 3B.

Runner2 attempts to score and is thrown out 3B to C.

Note: As odd as it looks the Batter was out before Runner2.

Thanks in advance,

Mark E.

mattlasley on May 11, 2012, 08:33 pm

I would write:
E6 352 DP
circle the runner on 3rd.

That's an rbi because with less than 2 outs, that run is scoring regardless of any error. The double play doesn't take away the rbi either, since that was not grounding into a force or reverse-force double play.

I think the notation might officially be:
E6/TH/G.BX3(35).1XH(52)DP

I know some folks who might not score that throw as an error because the runner was still out by the end of the play. If so, I'd only change the "E" to "FC" (it's not a hit under any circumstance).

I'm curious what Alex thinks.

on August 15, 2013, 10:27 pm

Hi there.

While I'm not an expert on Alex's system it looks very familiar to the Retrosheet Project Scoresheet notations. That being said, I believe the correct text for this play is:

E6/TH/G/DP.3-H;1XH(52);BX3(35)

I was taught you handle the runners counter-clockwise (first you handle the runner on third, then the runner at first).

One additional thing to note is if there were two out before the at-bat started, you would also have to add a (NR) after the run scoring.

That's how I was taught to code.

Thanks.

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